Dangers of feeding commercial (Purina) pet food

[Howlinbob]

Some serious concerns have been reported about certain brands/batches of Purina pet food:

Consumer complaints about Purina Pet Foods

[MickB]

Thank you for bring that to my attention HB. I don't feed my cats Purina but I will email all people that have had kittens from me to warn them.
Thanks again!!

[MickB]

Ummm...did i miss something here?

[MickB]

Ahh I see. I didn't realise all that business was still going on, i thought this was just a general heads-up about bad cat food.
For the record, all mine eat RC dry food.

[debbie560]

As for this article or whatever. Never even read it yet. But... Whoopie... Dangers everywhere. Won't argue with that. I even post articles about commercial problems. It is WHY you are posting this that is all so wrong.

Can't someone post a simple non biased article without the immature kiddies getting crazy? Seriously. Why was it so bad? Because moi posted it? That article was written by a vet on a vet site. A very very good article. Look at what you are all doing. Posting pictures of cats eating raw,anti commercial, etc... It is sooo obvious. Grow up. Omg!

And Dave this is the honest truth. Look at this! All for me posting a non biased article that gave some good advice to raw feeders. It is not the raw vs commercial that is a problem at this site.

BTW, I found this great article while browsing through a vet site that I found while looking for new food for Teddy. If you look under my evil pet food video thread you will see the link. The article was on the front page sticking out like a sore thumb. No mean intentions anywhere. But look what happens...

Plus I would hate to see anyone have to go through what I did with Sasha. I still have to support her neck at times. Although I don't agree with raw, i want others to do it as safely as posible. Sometimes concern over others needs to come before egos.

AS I am one of the posters of Raw food photos, as my cats are fed a raw diet, I can only presume for some reason that this is a dig at me though I have no clue why?

You have posted one negative article about the dangers of feeding raw food, there are many article out there that also100 percent agree with feeding raw? Just because a VET wrote it does not make it right its his opinion that’s all. Some vets are owned body and soul by dried food manufacturers… When Mathyuis lost all his coat, I was offered every single EXPENSIVE prescription diet there was, none of them made him better, the only made him more sick because he would not eat it..


We all have our ways of doing things, and bad experience can cloud our judgment, but I did my research… and YOU can clearly read from past posts NO one was a more supporter of RC that I.. I spent over 700 euros a month with them…


My cats diets have been especially thought out, I have got to a lot of trouble to ensure that my cats get everything they require for their daily need and then some.

I understand you being anti-RAW given the circumstances, but one posting that says RAW food is dangerous! does not outweigh the many that say that RAW food is good.


It’s all about preparation, hygiene and buying the best quality food you can

I read on another post I think written by Antonia, that most cats unless totally starving will not eat bad meat and she is right, I took out a batch of chicken once and unknown to me the fridge which I store my meat in when I take it out of the freezer had been accidentally turned down when I out the meat in it… I out it all out for the cats and they walked away.

YOU had a bad experience with RAW , I had a bad experience with Dried, that does not mean I say all dried is bad? You can have a perfectly good dried food and store it in the wrong conditions and this also can make you animal sick.

I have been feeding the RAW diet for the past 7 months now.. and to be honest with you nothing will make me go back, I have healthy cats, with shiny coats, who have lots of energy and muscle and much less fat.
They have strong clean teeth, and they have a new lease of life but its my choice, they are my cats, my kittens are reared BARF, but if a new owner who has paid a deposit wishes me to feed them half and half for their own convenience I will and they will get Orijen Cat food as well as raw.. But fed again in the correct way as feeding both raw and buiscuits at the same time is not good unless there is a long time in between meals.



To turn it on it butt... I have also read on here many posting about Dried food with different companies being called back, withdrawn... etc etc...


You postings are personal and not very nice, and maybe its the way they are written which is taken badly not what you write.

I will not get in to a slanging match with you Candes.. Every one is entitled to their own opinion, I have mine you have yours and many others have theirs.. on a forum like this, with in reason we are allowed to share our experiences etc etc...

But I and the other raw feeders, did not make negative comments about you, so please keep them to your self!

[debbie560]

And I want to make this comment stand out alone. No you didn't say bad words. But your underhanded tit for tat which started all this, is just as bad as nasty words. And you know it. Just another way of doing it so as to make you come out smelling like a rose. While making me look like the bad guy. And it is about time I point this out.

Candes, go and find someone else to fall out with, you really are showing your self up!!

I am no longer going to bother answering your posts, I have not made you look bad, you did that all by your self.

Now please go find someone else to hassle...

[catslave]

Candes why don't you just accept that there is another opinion apart from yours. I and others will continue to feed our cats the best diet that we see fit for them, and you nor anyone else harping on and on with only your own poor attempts as your "experience" will ever change our opinions. I have a non MC cat who is raw fed and would have died had I given him the smallest amount of commercial cat food due to the additives and by products in it. I have happy healthy cats - do you? Well I will feed mine what I choose and have vet records to show is the best diet for them and you feed yorus what you think and shut up with the telling others how to think and what to feed. I have never pushed raw down anyone's throat and would appreciate the commercial feeders not doing the same. On other sites it has been said that raw is best but that some people slate it as they see it as the expensive option but I weigh up the slightly increased cost in relation to the discomfort and feelings of my cats if they needed vet dental work and all the chemicals of anesthetics etc and ........... well the cats won and will continue to eat, enjoy and thrive on a raw diet.

(bet your really pleased I'm back!)

[mc-becca]

um, ok -- I guess I'll just continue to feed my boyz M&Ms (no way am I posting what I feed -- don't want to be virtually lynched!).

Seriously, I appreciate everyone's viewpoint and information regarding this topic, so I can make my own decision.

We all want what's best for our fur-babies - that's why we're here.

[debbie560]

Well said!! Both!


I hope that no one in my post reads them as I dictate that YOU must feed BARF that was never my intention, my intention was to answer the question, BARF Versus other foods, I chose RAW.. simple..

When I sell a kitten this kitten is fed BARF too and if people do not like this then go elsewhere for a kittens simple!! And if people then think they can pay me lip service and say oh yes he will be fed this way then send me a dear Debbie email one week before he is to be delivered, then yes they will have a problem with me!

Since I have started feeding this way I have had adopted several kittens, all those kittens are still BARF fed, and the owners that have other cats prior to mine arriving have also changed, I did not put their arm up their back! they saw the look of the cats and the benefit of BARF to dried.


If a new owner wishes me to feed half and half I am happy to do this once a deposit is paid, but if you know I feed BARF and then say oh well he will as soon as I get him/her, then he/she only get buiscuits then thats the wrong attitude is all I will say.


There is also a matter of listening, I feed BARF for my own reasons stated above, and it is an expensive alternative but it suits me. But when you feed BARF you have to understand that you just can't like one person said to me, they will get a couple of chicks in the morning and then have dried food down all day for the rest of the time? That wrong also as I pointed out to this person more than once... Giving her links to many BARF websites in English so she could read them.

The digestive time for BARF and Dried are different, so if you are going to feed BARF and buiscuits there has to be many hours between feeds to ensure that the cats has digested the BARF food which takes longer to digest, so if you feed chicks/ meat etc in the morning then the buiscuits can be put down at supper time or when you go to bed...


The best tale of all is my two pet Abyssinians recently sent to the States, they have their own blog.

Wendy and Mark feed a brand of Raw called Natures Variety food, which you can get in RAW, tinned, and Buiscuit form, they bought all three. JUST in case lol The Buiscuits are made of organic meat and Vegetables.

They Mark and Wendy had to go to work for half a day leaving the boys at home for the first time, and they were worried they would starve! So they left a dish of buiscuits down for them, after an early breakfast leaving 6 hours digestion time. The boys did not touch a buiscuit, when their mum and dad came home with the RAW minced Lamb dish of the day, that they ate!



Now if certain people wish to jump all over this post then, get on with it.. But I have read and re read my previous posts on this subject and the comments in them have not been me JUMPING on people who do not feed RAW!!

[debbie560]

Catslave I respect others opinions. And you can feed and post what you like. (You always have.) But this is being turned around. You were not here for the beginning so I am not sure why you are here now.

-I posted an article (nothing more)
-Someone got nasty with a new member over it and their own opinion (later deleted)
-Immature tit for tat was posted in response by several members including this post and extra raw pics etc around the site

This above response (not the actual content) was hostile to me and the new person. Because we posted something you didn't like. Now who is being censored here? All I did was post an article. And you all went crazy over it. The same hostile atmopshere that keeps others walking on eggshells to keep the peace.

Once again I repeat... It is not what was posted here, it was why... Immature tit for tat. You folks have been posting your raw stuff all along. Never once did I even care. But several folks went crazy with the posts in a hostile response to my article. All in an attempt to censor me.

For now on, I will no longer be censored. So if you see something that differs from your opinion, you better get cozy with the idea. Since yes you were correct, the peace was broken but by the behaviors of certain individuals. This is exactly what this is all about. Censorship at its finest.

And catslave, I actually defended you over principle and out in the open. While the kiddies lit up the PM system ripping you apart behind you back. Not sure what you mean about that comment to me about not being happy to see you back.

That someone you are refering to me Candes is me, I did not get nasty at all with the other person, I asked her where she got her information from which she kindly posted, and when I edited my post and sent it back I must have had it highlighted because un be known to me until your next nasty comment, I did actually have no clue what you was on about.

HOWEVER someone here must have my post in their email copies hey you keep referring to it then why dont you repost it Candes then I and other can see how nasty it is..??


Your quote.. Immature tit for tat. You folks have been posting your raw stuff all along. Never once did I even care. But several folks went crazy with the posts in a hostile response to my article. All in an attempt to censor me.[/B]

Us Folks as you say are allowed to post our comments and show photos, this is a Forum, and here we can feel free to share our own experiences of feeding BARF why to quote your own comment should you care.



We have been reading your posts and that of the "the new member" however no other member has been as you can clearly see replying to your quotes, because quite simply Candes, you rant and tant all by your self.


You quotes on the discussion which is here are actually very personal

http://www.maine-coon-forum.info/raw...ntroversy.html



Candes, one thing I do not do is censor my posts, after my experience with Back Street Breeders, I am more careful what I put is all... But if I really put what I think of your attitude on here I would be banned, and I am not about to do that, as this is a nice forum.


Candes you like the attentions which is why you are not getting any more from me from now on and I think you can clearly see NO one is taking you on on the other page other than the " new member"