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Breeders and New Pet owners beware
Zecoona Mainecoons, one of the breeders named on the website Breeders from Hell, Zecoona, Gold Krystals and Tigerstars Has a BRAND new website and Prefix....
Razzle DazzleÂ* Maine Coons, Maine Coons, Maine Coon Cats, Maine Coon Kittens,
I have just received another email that states that she is advertising on kittenlist....the ad says Somerset but her profile on there says Bristol. She lives in Cannington Somerset!!!
Here below is what was sent to me...
Razzle Dazzle
Breeder of Maine Coon
Located Bristol, United Kingdom
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Memberships: Fife, Tica, GCCF
Website: Visit Breeders Website
Listed since: 17th Aug 10
Advertiser Details
Location: Bristol
United Kingdom
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That's scary - the website has got some lovely looking Studs and Queens, and the kittens all look so cute and healthy (at least to my untrained eye). Had I not seen the hoo-haa on the Forum I'd never have known that Zecoona was a prefix to watch out for, and the Razzle Dazzle website would not have set off alarm bells to me. Food for thought, I guess I'll stick with breeders that I know, or that have been recommended.
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Originally Posted by FreyjaRoMaine
Yes it is a shame some of the cats are indeed very nice.. Appearance's can be deceiving and she sure had me well and truly... deceived!!
But believe me she and the cattery are not nice.. Check out the website on Zecoona Jenin and you will see what kind of breeder she is...
Â*Maine coon Breeders from hell.... Suzanne M Zech and Christine Smith
It gets me very angry when breeders state they are HOBBY breeders... in 2009 She had over 40 plus kittens this year the same.. THATS not a hobby breeder... And thats why the kittens end up like Jenin, she told me she had a big problem in 2009 I tried to offer help and support... she threw it in my face... and then kept my tow cats for over 7 and a half months..
Ask your self a question. WOULD you breed of a cat that was at your home but did not belong to you! Once you have that answer you will know what kind of woman she is!!
Debbie
I've met Mrs Zecoona Zech at shows and she definately not someone I'd like to spend time with... and that was before all this came out!
I have heard that before!! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tivicoons
Someone wrote to me when the website was put up and she said that her cat lost and she white washed the judge in public, glad it was not a judge I was stewarding for she would have got more than she bargained for.. A lot of people are apparently: really scared of this insignificant little old woman... I have no clue why!!:suprised:
I think its because she doesn't quite act in the same way as most people... she is also very very intense, you just don't know where she is coming from. She is supposed to have been ill but this doesn't excuse her actions the pix of Jenin where horrible, poor little scrap!
Ask the Somerset court Bailiffs how ill she is.. Vile, and rough as hell is how they described her..
I was around the corner from her house, standing next to my car and I heard her... from there... over a main road....terrible... Vile language something you expect from a thug in a pub in an argument..
She was too sick to come to court... bless!!! but not to sick to scream at the police and Balliffs... 2 DAYS later or attend a 2 day show 4 days later... maybe she will be better for her next court appearance in September...... or maybe she will bring her new friend Julian Pirog... the man that has been harrasing me with emails.. who knows.. what will happen.. he has joined the New Mainecoon breeders... he is getting a stud boy off her...
I was quite shocked when I saw some photos of her... a lady sent to me that had visited her house... I have never had the pleasure of meeting her!! she has however threatened me with violence several times... so the intense part I can understand... I feel for Jenin and the other boy the lady has... he will have to have all his teeth out... Another Mainecoon breeder I know rang me to say she was at this show.. she said she was an ordinary woman just like your granny..... most have caught her on a good day or she wanted something... lol
Ah now you've got it... if any of you have read Granny by Anthony Horrowiz then you will quickly fill in a mental picture of Mrs Zech!
Had no idea until i arrived its a bump dirty smells never again she was happy to say someone was taking her to court
my girl was dirty has no idea how to keep herself clean so i am always bathing her .. not litter trained had her 6weeks still not 100%
baby 2 she came from KASSARO isle of white its like they came from different worlds
so clean would tell anyone to go their for a kitten she only jumped off a table and she has broke a leg bless
if i can work out how to put pics on you can see the differance in them
Had no idea until i arrived its a bump dirty smells never again she was happy to say someone was taking her to court
my girl was dirty has no idea how to keep herself clean so i am always bathing her .. not litter trained had her 6weeks still not 100%
baby 2 she came from KASSARO isle of white its like they came from different worlds
so clean would tell anyone to go their for a kitten she only jumped off a table and she has broke a leg bless
if i can work out how to put pics on you can see the differance in them
Funny how you sent photos and spoke on the phone and had no problems you are as bad as the bitch from hell
Are we to assume that scoonies is mrs zech then?
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Originally Posted by mollyanna
Oh my GOD I used that photos ON my website so many people commented on that poor baby... I have photos of that baby's since it was born...
Scoonies is Zech and Lurker.... Mrs Zech... Bitch From HELL...??
DID I keep your cats from you for 7 and a half months, and had to get the baliifs in even after a court order
DID I breed off your cat,
Do I owe you money,
Do I lie and sell poorly kittens....
ALL OF THE ABOVE you did...
I think you will find that that TERM " Bitch from hell" belongs to you...
OMG.... I did wonder who would get this baby.... I have photos of this poor little one since she was born.... She never did look well... her coats is open and looks dirty... you poor new owner... :sad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by mollyanna
What will you do??? contact me if you like..:smile: Have you seen Jenin... another Zecoona Baby!! :sad1:
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Originally Posted by Tivicoons
I had not heard of the book, so I googled it....nice rely!!!!:rofl: and the mental picture I had plus the photos I got sent... and not this book.... doppelganger!!!
I'm confused....
Sorry Dave... Why??
Am I right in thinking the Breeder you're having issues with is the member Schoonies?
And that Mollyanna, also bought from the same breeder and is likewise having issues?
Just trying to make sure I'm clear on whats happened/and who's who...
I think you've got the gist of it!
You are very right indeed... Scoonie is Suzanne Zech AKA Zecoona Mainecoons AKA as Razzle Dazzle MainecoonsQuote:
Originally Posted by dave
She is also the woman that I took to court she kept my cats for 7 and a half months bred off one of them and I had to get the bailiffs to go in and get them out!!
I'm a bit confused too. why did she have your cats for in the first place?Quote:
Originally Posted by debbie560
I designed her first website.. she was a client.
She was importing a cat from abroad the Netherlands and was a little confused.. I helped with the rabies information etc, We got to talking and we actually became quite friendly.
Long story short.. our Boy Jet was totally depressed no girls, Athene and diti his girls would not let him near them... it was either neuter him or find him some girls. After paying almost 2 grand for him I was not about to do that!!
I asked Her for help as I had never bought an adult girl before.. So really did not have a clue where to look... I was coming to the UK anyway for a Somali... so kill two birds so to speak
She pointed me in the direction of kittens link or pets for home.. I found the girls.
The seller was happy with me etc etc , and agreed to keep them while they had the 3 weeks quarantine for shipment to Germany... But she wanted them out when this was over this would have been 31st of December and this was not possible. A rag doll friend of mine offered to have them but admitted she knew nothing about mainecoons, this was my 16 year old daughters savings.. so I and she did not wish to take a risk. I asked Zech. she agreed and it was basically at first I pick up her Dutch boy bring him to the UK pick up my girls.. thats how it originally started.... a You scratch my back I scratch yours...
She was basically my agent.....(I do have all the emails of PROOF that this is how it all happened... PRODUCED in court also as evidence As Mrs Zechs version changed many times..)
The only thing that changed is the you scratch my back bit... Kitty the Dutch Breeder wanted to meet Zech in person so she was coming over with my cats and I was meet her in Rotterdam...
Then Christine Smith of Goldkrystals, tigerstars Adorabella stepped in and sent the email from Hell... which Shocked me, Kitty, and basically every one who read it...
I do this for other breeders in the UK I currently have a cat here that has come from Prague, he is going to live in the UK the breeder can not keep him as he is a male.. he lives with us.. I take them for their blood tests etc keep them here for the 6 months or so then bring them to the UK... or they come to me... these is a lot more to the story... but you don't need an essay!! I am sure!!:smile:
She also had a nice black silver kitten female, I had seen her when she sent a photo of her to put on her website..
This kitten turned out to have major squits.... which she did not tell me about and she wanted £700.00 plus for this baby. :grr:
I pulled out of the kitten when I was told by Smith about this diarrhea problem and I then confronted Zech... who admitted she had a big problem with it and all her kittens where very sick indeed...
I even offered her help and advised her what to do, how to feed... When I pulled out of this kitten she had to pull out of the Dutch boy she had paid £500.00 deposit on but there was still well over £1,000 to find and there was the travel there etc etc...
Then it got nasty!!
And not from me...
Debbie
Badsworthcats
Sounds like the coronavirus to me alot of cats can = alot of problems :sad1:
You could be right.. either way you have to ask your self why is she breeding..Quote:
Originally Posted by Louie-Louie
She lost 6 adult cats in 2008/9 all under the age of 5..
This year she has admitted to loosing more kittens than she has sold and the same last year..
No one would think the worst of you if you hold up your hand admit you have a problem clean up your act and start again... Apologize to people give them their money back..
But NO she goes on regardless... This just compounds what the problem is...
The only one that suffers is the poor cats... their kittens... and the General Public when they buy any badly bred, sick kittens.. Then the breeders..
I will give you a prime example of how this affects breeders.. the British Shorthair cat on the whole in the UK is clean and clear from HCM...
The Dutch and some German lines where full of it.. Cats died very young etc etc they did nothing... didn't tell anyone and basically the pet owners suffered loosing their beloved pets at under 2 years of age...
Some breeders are leading the way in clearing this disease from the lines.. You have to produce the test results to use your boy at stud a copy to the new owners etc etc..
Getting to the part of the knock on effect... I have sold my babies to many of these Dutch owners that have lost kittens... Its honestly like being taken to Court... HIGH court, the questions, the mistrust, the demands etc etc... In one way its good shows they are doing their homework.... BUT why should they have had to taken this route?
Quite simply because of Irresponsible breeders... thats all..
Debbie
Badsworthcats
[QUOTE=debbie560;5818]Oh my GOD I used that photos ON my website so many people commented on that poor baby... I have photos of that baby's since it was born...
Scoonies is Zech and Lurker.... Mrs Zech... Bitch From HELL...??
DID I keep your cats from you for 7 and a half months, and had to get the baliifs in even after a court order
DID I breed off your cat,
Do I owe you money,
Do I lie and sell poorly kittens....
ALL OF THE ABOVE you did...
I think you will find that that TERM " Bitch from hell" belongs to you...[/QUOTe
Record stuck and getting very boring living in the past again
[quote=scoonies;5871]Quote:
Originally Posted by debbie560
The past, is my present and Yours.. Because of what you did to us! You have no one else to blame but your self...
You have been given another court date again Mrs Zech.
You have to pay the money you owe me sorry... I will not be going away... So as boring as it is and seen to be its reality.. I am one of the many you have bullied that will not be going away!
You owe me the following.
£182.57 Pets passports (you destroyed)
£180.00 Court costs you was ordered to pay forthwith ( still waiting)
£800.00 2 dead kittens
£600.00 my agents fees because you refused to let me or Denise near your house to pick up the cats plus and my travel cost to the UK for the 2nd time to pick up my other cat.
£95.00 Warrant of delivery
£100.00 Warrant of execution costs
£40.00 New court case costs
£ Compensation and cost travel, loss of earning cost for my trip in September again to see you in court. To be decided.
Being smug and Smarmy to someone will not make it go away, your lack of remorse for what you have done to me and to others here well it speaks volumes.