Thread: Snip. Snip. Snip!

Originally Posted by elismom

Isn't it ironic that someone who becomes apoplectic about a dental rinse doesn't give a second thought to feeding raw meat to their cats? I suppose they didn't bother to google that either...

I find the snide and sarcastic tone of this post rather shocking.
The discussion about the safety of a dental rinse has nothing to do with raw feeding.
Could it be that Elismom is so vehemently opposed to raw that she is setting out to rubbish anyone who says they feed raw, for any reason?
There may be people who are feeding raw but dare not mention it for fear of this kind of persecution.
Raw feeding is not a guilty secret - it is a valid choice for many pet owners, whatever one's personal thoughts on the matter.

Originally Posted by Howlinbob

I find the snide and sarcastic tone of this post rather shocking.
The discussion about the safety of a dental rinse has nothing to do with raw feeding.
Could it be that Elismom is so vehemently opposed to raw that she is setting out to rubbish anyone who says they feed raw, for any reason?
There may be people who are feeding raw but dare not mention it for fear of this kind of persecution.
Raw feeding is not a guilty secret - it is a valid choice for many pet owners, whatever one's personal thoughts on the matter.

I think food choice is like politics & religion whatever you choose is the right option for you & its great to debate but you should all be allowed to stick to your own for whatever reason & not feel guilty,what is right for one is not necessarily right for someone else & how boring it would be if this was so.
What I like about this forum is that if people ask a question we all pop up with lots of different replies trying to help based on our own experiences & long may it last ...x

For the record I didn't google anything in relation to this mouth wash, I used to work for a major Pharmacutical Company and my Uncle still works for Solvay, who in October 2006, Following ahe AGM of the VetMed Association labelled this product as unsuitable for use for cats and kittens, due to the respiratory effects and also the link between use and deafness.

Hey kids, please take it outside. This is *my* thread. No smiley attached.

Perhaps I should intervene and get the thread back on track by talking about balls...

Originally Posted by Bethy_boo

Perhaps I should intervene and get the thread back on track by talking about balls...

Didn't work Bethy_boo but I suppose the other has a bit to do with thread as poor boys did have tooth problems its just all got a bit heavy in places,perhaps we need a section where deeper discussions like this can be carried on .....

Originally Posted by jckkerrison

Didn't work Bethy_boo....

And confirming that catslave has no evidence at all that chlorhexidine dental rinses kill cats--as she claimed earlier in the thread--but will not come out and clearly state--is not relevant to this thread's purpose? I cannot disagree more strongly with you! If somebody makes false claims that a product is deadly, this needs to be cleared up definitively or the info on this forum will be completely untrustworthy and therefore useless. If that is going to be the case, just to "be nice," then I don't want any association with this forum. I thought Dave was trying to set this forum up as a primary source of useful information for Maine Coon owners. So what would a new MC owner think about the safety of chlorhexidine oral rinses after reading the earlier portion of this thread? Sorry if somebody's feelings are hurt, but there needed to be a summary of the fact that no evidence pertaining to a lack of safety of these oral rinses has been able to be shown, because the issues cited arise with different formulations and applications for chlorhexidine.

I don't think anyone is trying to say that the forum should not post truthful things that will help us all,in this case I think some are trying to say this has gone a bit deep on someone elses thread,hence my remark that perhaps it might be an idea to ask Dave if we could have a section where these deeper matters could be carried over & not spoil the light hearted intentions of the original thread.
I would look into anything that was disagreed on anyway to draw my own conclusions if I thought it was something that affected my cat & I had thought about doing or using it that is the good thing about the forum,the things it brings to light but it is also a great forum because it is so friendly....x

I have decided to close this thread as it has gone way off the original topic.
I am aware that there are differences of opinion by many of us Maine coon/cat owners on this forum and discussion of these opinions are welcomed and encouraged HOWEVER members are kindly reminded to respect other members points of view, and also to keep this forum family friendly by not using foul language!

Members are most welcome to start a new thread to discuss the merits of "feeding raw food" or any other issues which have come up on this thread :-)

Originally Posted by catslave

For the record I didn't google anything in relation to this mouth wash, I used to work for a major Pharmacutical Company and my Uncle still works for Solvay, who in October 2006, Following ahe AGM of the VetMed Association labelled this product as unsuitable for use for cats and kittens, due to the respiratory effects and also the link between use and deafness.

By "this product" do you mean 0.1% chlorhexidine oral rinses? NO. Respiratory effects from the oral rinses? NO. Deafness from the oral rinses? NO. So you simultaneously admit your knowledge is not related to the 0.1% chlorhexidine oral rinses at all and yet neither admit you were wrong about chlorhexidine oral rinses potentially killing cats, nor apologize for accusing me of suggesting something that could kill cats. Wow. You should be in politics with that kind of non-response response.

Your reasoning that 0.1% chlorhexidine oral rinses are dangerous is analogous to somebody saying that since flushing one's ear with 100% ethyl alcohol when there is a perforated ear drum can cause hearing damage, drinking beer is dangerous.

Bottom line: catslave has presented no evidence to suggest a safety issue with 0.1% chlorhexidine oral rinses and I cannot find any online, they continue to be manufactured by multiple pet product companies, and they are frequently recommended by vets around the world, for cats with gingivitis issues.