Thread: Dangers of feeding commercial (Purina) pet food

Originally Posted by candes

And I want to make this comment stand out alone. No you didn't say bad words. But your underhanded tit for tat which started all this, is just as bad as nasty words. And you know it. Just another way of doing it so as to make you come out smelling like a rose. While making me look like the bad guy. And it is about time I point this out.

Candes, go and find someone else to fall out with, you really are showing your self up!!

I am no longer going to bother answering your posts, I have not made you look bad, you did that all by your self.

Now please go find someone else to hassle...

Candes why don't you just accept that there is another opinion apart from yours. I and others will continue to feed our cats the best diet that we see fit for them, and you nor anyone else harping on and on with only your own poor attempts as your "experience" will ever change our opinions. I have a non MC cat who is raw fed and would have died had I given him the smallest amount of commercial cat food due to the additives and by products in it. I have happy healthy cats - do you? Well I will feed mine what I choose and have vet records to show is the best diet for them and you feed yorus what you think and shut up with the telling others how to think and what to feed. I have never pushed raw down anyone's throat and would appreciate the commercial feeders not doing the same. On other sites it has been said that raw is best but that some people slate it as they see it as the expensive option but I weigh up the slightly increased cost in relation to the discomfort and feelings of my cats if they needed vet dental work and all the chemicals of anesthetics etc and ........... well the cats won and will continue to eat, enjoy and thrive on a raw diet.

(bet your really pleased I'm back!)

um, ok -- I guess I'll just continue to feed my boyz M&Ms (no way am I posting what I feed -- don't want to be virtually lynched!).

Seriously, I appreciate everyone's viewpoint and information regarding this topic, so I can make my own decision.

We all want what's best for our fur-babies - that's why we're here.

Well said!! Both!


I hope that no one in my post reads them as I dictate that YOU must feed BARF that was never my intention, my intention was to answer the question, BARF Versus other foods, I chose RAW.. simple..

When I sell a kitten this kitten is fed BARF too and if people do not like this then go elsewhere for a kittens simple!! And if people then think they can pay me lip service and say oh yes he will be fed this way then send me a dear Debbie email one week before he is to be delivered, then yes they will have a problem with me!

Since I have started feeding this way I have had adopted several kittens, all those kittens are still BARF fed, and the owners that have other cats prior to mine arriving have also changed, I did not put their arm up their back! they saw the look of the cats and the benefit of BARF to dried.


If a new owner wishes me to feed half and half I am happy to do this once a deposit is paid, but if you know I feed BARF and then say oh well he will as soon as I get him/her, then he/she only get buiscuits then thats the wrong attitude is all I will say.


There is also a matter of listening, I feed BARF for my own reasons stated above, and it is an expensive alternative but it suits me. But when you feed BARF you have to understand that you just can't like one person said to me, they will get a couple of chicks in the morning and then have dried food down all day for the rest of the time? That wrong also as I pointed out to this person more than once... Giving her links to many BARF websites in English so she could read them.

The digestive time for BARF and Dried are different, so if you are going to feed BARF and buiscuits there has to be many hours between feeds to ensure that the cats has digested the BARF food which takes longer to digest, so if you feed chicks/ meat etc in the morning then the buiscuits can be put down at supper time or when you go to bed...


The best tale of all is my two pet Abyssinians recently sent to the States, they have their own blog.

Wendy and Mark feed a brand of Raw called Natures Variety food, which you can get in RAW, tinned, and Buiscuit form, they bought all three. JUST in case lol The Buiscuits are made of organic meat and Vegetables.

They Mark and Wendy had to go to work for half a day leaving the boys at home for the first time, and they were worried they would starve! So they left a dish of buiscuits down for them, after an early breakfast leaving 6 hours digestion time. The boys did not touch a buiscuit, when their mum and dad came home with the RAW minced Lamb dish of the day, that they ate!



Now if certain people wish to jump all over this post then, get on with it.. But I have read and re read my previous posts on this subject and the comments in them have not been me JUMPING on people who do not feed RAW!!

Originally Posted by candes

Catslave I respect others opinions. And you can feed and post what you like. (You always have.) But this is being turned around. You were not here for the beginning so I am not sure why you are here now.

-I posted an article (nothing more)
-Someone got nasty with a new member over it and their own opinion (later deleted)
-Immature tit for tat was posted in response by several members including this post and extra raw pics etc around the site

This above response (not the actual content) was hostile to me and the new person. Because we posted something you didn't like. Now who is being censored here? All I did was post an article. And you all went crazy over it. The same hostile atmopshere that keeps others walking on eggshells to keep the peace.

Once again I repeat... It is not what was posted here, it was why... Immature tit for tat. You folks have been posting your raw stuff all along. Never once did I even care. But several folks went crazy with the posts in a hostile response to my article. All in an attempt to censor me.

For now on, I will no longer be censored. So if you see something that differs from your opinion, you better get cozy with the idea. Since yes you were correct, the peace was broken but by the behaviors of certain individuals. This is exactly what this is all about. Censorship at its finest.

And catslave, I actually defended you over principle and out in the open. While the kiddies lit up the PM system ripping you apart behind you back. Not sure what you mean about that comment to me about not being happy to see you back.

That someone you are refering to me Candes is me, I did not get nasty at all with the other person, I asked her where she got her information from which she kindly posted, and when I edited my post and sent it back I must have had it highlighted because un be known to me until your next nasty comment, I did actually have no clue what you was on about.

HOWEVER someone here must have my post in their email copies hey you keep referring to it then why dont you repost it Candes then I and other can see how nasty it is..??


Your quote.. Immature tit for tat. You folks have been posting your raw stuff all along. Never once did I even care. But several folks went crazy with the posts in a hostile response to my article. All in an attempt to censor me.[/B]

Us Folks as you say are allowed to post our comments and show photos, this is a Forum, and here we can feel free to share our own experiences of feeding BARF why to quote your own comment should you care.



We have been reading your posts and that of the "the new member" however no other member has been as you can clearly see replying to your quotes, because quite simply Candes, you rant and tant all by your self.


You quotes on the discussion which is here are actually very personal

http://www.maine-coon-forum.info/raw...ntroversy.html



Candes, one thing I do not do is censor my posts, after my experience with Back Street Breeders, I am more careful what I put is all... But if I really put what I think of your attitude on here I would be banned, and I am not about to do that, as this is a nice forum.


Candes you like the attentions which is why you are not getting any more from me from now on and I think you can clearly see NO one is taking you on on the other page other than the " new member"

Originally Posted by candes

No one is stepping in because you will all turn them into public enemy number two. Eggshells remember?

As far as I am concerned, this issue is over. And all I ask is to not be censored. That is all I am whining for. Can you all promise me this one small thing? If you do, I will shut up.

If that what you think Candes, then think it, PM's as you stated in your previous quotes what did it go like 1...2....3...4.... have told their own story! AND no one other than you and the "new member" have quoted because you have done this before... on other topics.



No one has censored you and no one has censored anyone else, I am, like you entitled to show information and photos of my cats being fed the way I feed them, I do not tell ANYONE who has not adoped a kitten or a cat from me how to feed their cat/kitten.


Its personal choice.


What I expect of my new owners as would any other good breeder who sells kittens and actually cares about their wellbeing, is to follow the diet sheet given to them when they take the cat home, as this is what the cat has been used to while at my home, if they later chose to feed another product thats their choice and this should be done gradually not right away.


I know one lady who recently bought a British that starved himself, he lost over half his body weight because he would not eat the buiscuits he was offered, he was also fed by another breeder not me BARF.


There are pro and cons about every discussion. You had a bad experience and jumped on me and my comments and my photos. But you are the only one that got NASTY Candes..


There is no egg shells, people just cant' be bothered with it, because you disagree anyway.


You have quoted with your 'New Member" so many posts between your selves, that could have been kept to PM or hey we live in the 21st Century try the phone..

This is the only reason I feel people have not quoted. Plus the nastyness within.


Do what you have to Candes, I am far to busy and to old to be playing your games.... but you are on your own... as stated now twice I have re read my comments and there is nothing nasty in them, there is no personal attack on you or the "new Member"

I actually agree that people do not enter this discussion due to being lynched...from both sides. This thread is ugly and personal. I suggest that people post an article or information and discuss the article/information only. Personal experience is helpful to a point, but from watching this topic for a long time it is clear that you can have a happy healthy cat on a varied array of diets (maybe not a purina diet?) and there is no clear winner, so it comes down to personal choice.
Not everyone is into BARF, and that's OK.

I think you (Debbie/Candes/Catslave) need to have a good hard look at the way in which you are coming across on this forum, it is not a welcome or helpful place when you are behaving in this manner.

And that's my rant...

Originally Posted by candes

And that's your opinion that you are entitled to. You just have to be in my shoes. I have been here a long time and always felt that I have to walk on eggshells every day that I am here. Always being careful not to say something that will erupt another tizzy. And that post that I did, I felt was "safe". I thought it was refreshing to find an article neither pro nor con and was proud of my find. Something that both "sides" could finally agree upon. Well my peace loving feel good post was treated like the antichrist. And I too would have welcomed a response to the "offending thread" vs what has gone on.

And your last comment was not nice. I feel this needs to be cleared up once and for all. When a well meaning article causes such a big stir, there is stil an underlining problem. It will not just magically disappear.

Candes I stopped using this forum as much when you became active on here again........you left alone for a while after the fuss over ncarver if I recall correctly.
If there is a point made that does not fit into your view you bombard the thread and do come across as very forceful. I agree that I may not agree with some of the points made by others I do not think that a public forum is the place for the responses that I have seen you give, others agree that there are other points of view that are not theirs but once you have got the bit between your teeth you do not seem to have any care other than getting your point across.

Please remember that this is my point of view and not anyone elses, but if I feel this way maybe others do too, lets keep the forum a happy place.

Enough already!
Whatever you feed your cats, it could always be worse.

If anyone wants more info on my new "MickyB MickyD" diet please pm me.



Oh and don't tell me the BurgerKing diet is better...i won't hear it.

(see how silly you are all being

Please accept my apologies for my last post.
It was purely a (misguided) attempt to make you all smile this morning.
There was no malice intended and I'm sorry :(