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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Galbavy View Post
    I have to take issue with the implied criticism in your response. Conflating the term reputable and indoor-only contracts excludes any breeders without these contracts from being reputable. While that may be your opinion it's far too sweeping an accusation to make. I am sure there are plenty of reputable MC breeders in the US who stipulate no such thing but perhaps advise it as a sensible precaution especially in urban areas.
    I've searched out and read close to 50 Maine Coon breeder contracts online, mainly from the US and not one of them did not state something like "indoor or outside on a leash". You can take anything I say anyway you wish, but the facts are what they are. Granted there are many more breaders that 50, but when that line shows up in every one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by deovolens View Post
    I calculated the risk and that is less then 1%, if he stays inside and get depressed or too fat this will be harmful for his life too.
    I don't see how a number of 1% risk can even be attained, sounds like an arbitrarily picked digit. There are plenty of things that can keep cats happy and healthy inside.

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    The problem for most of us that we humanize our beloved pets (Me too)
    A maine coon was a semi wild farm cat that had to survive in an harsh environment.I know when you place them in a city it's impossible to let them run free.
    One has to judge with his very special own situation and mostly they will have to stay inside.
    When I was young we were in an recon unit and had to sleep outside with - 20° C: no tent, sleeping bag. But in our houses we had no central heating and isolation . If you would ask the same things at the seal's know most of them would have problems.
    I just mean mean every situation is so different that's almost impossible to make a judgment .
    He is sleeping every night in our house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brims View Post
    I've searched out and read close to 50 Maine Coon breeder contracts online, mainly from the US and not one of them did not state something like "indoor or outside on a leash". You can take anything I say anyway you wish, but the facts are what they are. Granted there are many more breaders that 50, but when that line shows up in every one of them.
    Again, I have to respond. Just because you found N breeders with similar if not identical contracts - which are in all probability based on similar source documents - does not imply either that those N are in themselves reputable or that only breeders that are reputable have those contracts. What you have found is that normal practise in your location is to include these terms in a contract, nothing more, nothing less.

    To me, living in the UK, a reputable breeder is one that both conforms to my expectations of animal welfare and good practise and also has gained a reputation with their peers and previous clients of the same.

    There is far to much sloppy "A means B therefore B means C" going on in people's writing to justify their own opinions nowadays.

 

 
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