Thread: Help! Urinating/defecating inappropriately when we are away

At the start of this my first thoughts were put him in a cattery then at the end saw what your OH suggested......
The one time my parents came & stayed with the animals while we were away for a few days we had more problems on return than the odd one "trying"to ignore us when we picked up from the cattery although thank goodness that didn't involve toilet problems,that does seem to be the main way that cats do show their displeasure at something though & in this case I think it is him telling you he is not happy at you leaving him even though he is in amoungst all his familiar things.
They do love company & a 2nd friend could be good for him if you leave him for pretty long periods during the day but if he has a fair amount of human contact than would ride this time ignoring what he is doing otherwise he has won & got the extra attention he is demanding & next time try him in the cattery,you could still get a bit of a revolt on your hands but hopefully not in the same way.....x

Maine Coons are renowned for needing company- be it human or another animal -(rather than just enjoying it) but rather than get a new kitty from the off, as it is a huge commitment, how about trying McIntosh in a cattery for a couple of days before you go off on holidays, so there is no pressure on you worrying about how he will react, and see how he gets on. That way, after the first day you could phone them up and see how he's settled (or not). The fact he only seems to behave inappropriately when you aren't there definitely suggests separation anxiety to me. A privacy thing I think? Cats really do hate being 'dirty' and there is something going on in his head to behave in such a way. Another thought, have you tried both hooded litter trays and open trays? I find my girls use open trays for urinating and hooded trays for solids.

Sorry I cant add words of wisdom like the other people have, just wanted to wish you luck and the advise you have got seems very astute x

Thanks for the replies. I have tried hooded trays, he seems to prefer open trays.

Just thought I'd update with how things have been going. I added a third litter tray in another location - this one is HUGE - it's actually a worm farm lol, and because it already had a seive tray in it it's pure gold as a giant OZ litter tray!! So I got the tick of approval with this huge size, it's actually big enough that he does poos in one end and wees in the other, and seems to have abandoned the other smaller trays altogether. He still yowled for 15 mins or so before finally using the tray for a number 2, but there were no accidents for a couple weeks. Then I had my sister coming to visit, with her boyfriend, so I cleaned the bathroom, and laid down a fresh white cotton bath mat. I show them around, walk past the bathroom door 5 mins later, and there's a little yellow patch right in the centre. I could just imagine what it said in cat language. 'TOSHIE WOZ HERE'. Aghhhh! It's obvious he didn't even NEED to pee, he must have tried really hard to squeeze out that little deposit, it was only a very small round patch. So no mats are sacred in the bathroom and I have to keep doors closed at all times. So after that we chugged along well for a week or two, then I went out the back to feed the chooks and didn't let him come with me. I could hear him yowling inside. I come back in just in time to see him disappearing into the toilet. I walked in and there he is, squatting on the toilet mat, doing a pee. There were THREE clean litter trays!!!! I had just cleaned the giant one, topped with fresh litter! Oh, it's doing my head in!!!!

Anyway, with great effort, I restrained my impulse to wreak veangeance lol (don't worry, it was only a passing thought) and merely clapped my hands sharply and said AH-AH. He ran off, and I went to wash some more mats. sigh. No mats in the toilet now either. Floors cleaned, doors shut.

So, it would appear that it's gone from separation anxiety to something else. Habit? Territorial marking? There were guests over when he peed on the bath mat, but not when he peed on the toilet mat, so maybe not.

SO. Hubby noted that seeing as he yowls so long before using the tray, maybe he doesn't like the litter. Even tho he was raised on it, he was using breeders choice for a while which was softer, and oz litter is "crunchy" and hard if you know what I mean. So even tho it's by far MY favourite litter choice, I figured what the hell, and went down the store and bought 3 different types of litter. I filled up one with Natty Cat (tiny little lucerne pellets, smells great, much smaller and softer then oz litter) and put it down beside the oz litter tray. He came up, sniffed, stepped in, gave a little chirrup, and promptly christened it. Do I dare hope that he likes this better??? Time will tell!!!

On top of the choice of litter, I have gone through the house with a black light and treated 2 patches on the carpet in my bedroom, rest of house was clean thank goodness, and I ordered 2 feliway diffusers today, figured may as well try the whole lot!!! Any other suggestions?

I'm scared that if I don't get on top of this soon, he'll turn into one of those cats that pees anywhere and ends up in a shelter. Not that I'd do that, but you know what I mean.

Good for you susing out the litter change, that was good. I do hope that this works for you, fingers crossed. x

so I started writing a long response earlier, that I was very proud of, and then someone called me, my computer crashed and I lost it all! darn!

first about the peeing : is he by any chance having a tantrum? he sees what works to get you rattled and voila.... ? I am thinking of asking a vet for a specialist of cat behaviour for Neevie - at the moment she's lovely but she goes through phases...

Feliway has worked wonders with her though - hope it works for you - you have to wait about 2 or 3 weeks before it starts having an effect, it's not immediate.

also, about the yowling - does it sound like he may be in pain? like, constipated? or the reverse? or having problem passing water? may be it burns? may be that's what throws him? you know, the same way if it hurts every time you eat something, you might take a dislike to that perticular food?

Cats also hate the smell of citrus, so I don't know if you could try a citrus disinfectant such as zoflora (which isn't poisonous to cats) or something similar, perhaps citrus air freshner in the loo?
The outdoor cat you mentioned, has she ever bothered McIntosh when he's in the tray so he feels he has to go else where?
Most cats prefer open trays for exactly that reason, they have a 360 view of their surroundings.
Hope the change of litter has the desired affect. Keep us posted.

Alekto - It is possible that he was throwing a tantrum, but I think it's more that he was feeling insecure - he's just a stressy type cat, always has been from day one as a kitten, so I think it's the only way he could communicate that he was lonely and unhappy about something!

Ginacool - the citrus disinfectant is a great idea - I will definitely replace the old pine scent for citrus to discourage further relapses.

Update: Well, since my last post we have remained accident free!!!! That's 6 weeks! I think it has been a combination of factors.
1) He definitely prefers the lucern litter
2) He definitely needs seperate pee and poo boxes
3) Feliway diffuser really seemed to help calm his general anxiety - for him I noticed a difference within 48 hours.
4) We got a new kitten


I decided to take the plunge with a new arrival about the same time we started using the lucern litter. Jasper is an adorable bundle of blue point ragdoll fluff, and within 3 hours of his arrival made firm friends with a rather bemused maine coon. I wanted another maine coon, but it was my hubbys turn to pick, and I must say I think his choice has been the best possible for Toshie. Jasper is so relaxed and laid back, and confident, and has really helped settle Toshie down. In fact he's already the alpha cat, at only 4 months old! Mainly because Tosh does not have any dominance at all in his personality. He lets Jasper do whatever he pleases. They play incessantly, galloping all over the house, knocking stuff over, Toshie baths him every day, and they often curl up in the same bed to sleep. The early morning yowling has all but ceased, he is nowhere near as demanding, and the ultimate improvement - no further inappropriate toilet behaviour - even when we went away for a week. I have caught him scratching on the tiles while meowing the last few days, but that was after I had removed one of the smaller trays and was in the process of replacing it with a larger one. Each time I was able to direct him to the litter and he used it without an accident. Now that the new tray is in place, he seems to have settled again.

So I feel almost confident to announce a total success!!!

The only drawback? Since the arrival of the new playmate and friend, I no longer get my daily snuggles and love. :( :( :( I am in withdrawal. He used come and chirp at me til I laid on the bed and he would hop up for a snuggle, every day. Now, not at all. He's too busy playing and when he's not playing, he's content to curl up in his bed to sleep, and doesn't seem to desire any cuddles at all! Will he ever come back to me?